I don’t know where people say these subs are not good.I have 2 of these hooked up in a sealed box.I am pushing them with a 1600w D class amp.OK,they ain’t your 400$ subs.But I killed a set of alpine E’s and a set of JLw3 with this amp is a bad boy amp. So I got these just to see whats up with them(1500w/750rms).Put them on a smaller Rockford 500/1 to break them in. If you know about amps you know Rockford 500/1 has some power and these subs took it all. So I was like well lets see with my 1600w.They are taking it.And are slamming very impressed.for the money you can not go wrong with these subs…..hope this helps you.